This joint post was made possible by Sally Ember who has been gracious enough to allow us to speak on her blog. She has done this knowing that Charles Yallowitz and I have a history of crazy antics. Indeed, some of these antics occurred on Sally’s very own LIVE video show ‘Changes’, which you can find online. Thank you to Sally Ember and we hope everyone enjoys this post on writing a series.
Don’t forget to check out Charles’s latest book, Legends of Windemere: Sleeper of the Wildwood Fugue.
Writing and Promoting a Series
Charles– First, I would like to say that I’m happy to be working with Nicholas again and on a post this time. Our back and forth on our blogs is a lot of fun and he has a very sharp, creative mind that keeps me on my toes. This carries over into his writing, which impressively spans several genres.
Nicholas– Aw, thank you! Same goes for me. I’m very impressed by Charles, both as an author and as a person. Plus, it’s great to have someone who gets my weird sense of humor!
Sally: What is the hardest part about promoting a series?
Charles– It’s really easy at the beginning because you can play around with teasers and you only have one book out. Then you get the second and try to find ways to promote without revealing everything in the first book. Around the third book, if you go higher than a trilogy, you get caught between avoiding big revelations in the earlier books and spoilers for the next one. It’s a really hectic balancing act because you don’t want to say too much. Yet you have to say enough to keep people interested and lead to them to the rest of the series.
I’ve found that you have to make sacrifices in this. For example, revealing a minor spoiler to promote the next book while keeping the big stuff secret. A teaser helps too because it isn’t so much a spoiler, but a hint that something is going to happen or a foreshadowed event is coming to pass. Oddly enough, I found that Twitter is the less nerve-wracking social media site to promote a series on. This is because the 140 character limit means you can’t say much and it’s hard to tiptoe around spoilers like that. So you have to stick to catchy blurbs or small quotes from the book.
Nicholas– I agree. Twitter is a great promotional medium for a series, as my marketing relies on a short quote and a link.
One of the best things about having a series is that you can have a different book on sale each month, and it will help the others’ sales as well. However, unlike Charles, I have also made a book bundle available. This contains all the books published so far in Pearseus. Obviously, when this is on sale, no one buys the rest of the books. However, it does attract a lot of attention as it offers great value for money. So, it’s all a bit of a balancing act.
Sally: How difficult is it to maintain continuity in a series and what tricks do you use to accomplish this?
Charles– I once switched one of my main character’s eye colors and a minor recurring character lost his hair. So some of the details can be messed up if one isn’t careful. Perhaps the biggest challenge to story continuity is that you can forget some foreshadowing or you do something that alters a previously established rule. Middle books can also have events that change the finale because what you plan in your head might not always be what comes out on paper. It really is a game of memory and concentration. Either that or putting together a 5,000 piece puzzle with no picture to guide you.
There are two tricks that I use. One is that I keep notes on a lot of things that I believe I will forget. For example, I had some minor characters who step into the spotlight in a later book and I never gave them much description in their first appearance. There was just enough that they stood out and I had to make sure I had those identifiers written down. The other trick is to never be afraid to look back at your earlier books to confirm information. If you have even an inkling that you’re off on a fact then jump back to the book where you know the information has already been written. This helps with plotlines, character descriptions, world-building, and anything else that carries over from book to book.
Nicholas– Lol – I love the idea of a 5,000 piece puzzle with no picture to guide you. Indeed, it can feel that way at times.
I have a doc file that includes all sorts of minor details, from names to subplots. Also, when I write, I always have my older books open as well. That way, I’m able to instantly jump back and forth and check things out. For example, a lot of the action takes place in a place called the Chamber of Justice. Every now and again, I’ll catch myself typing Chambers of Justice (plural) instead, so I have to remember it’s actually singular. I have no idea why some days it feels self-evident it’s singular and others that it’s plural, but that’s just how it is.
Sally: Do you have any suggestions for readers who wish to get into reading a long series?
Charles– I’m a fan of starting from the beginning, but I know many who start at the most recent book. If you do this then I highly suggest that you read the earlier books at some point for more context and to see events that don’t get mentioned again. Also, one must be patient with a series because the story is stretched out and every book will have an opening. Not everything gets cleared up at the end of the earlier books and that understanding helps a reader accept that questions will remain. The only other tip I have is that you have to trust that the author knows what he or she is doing. I see a lot of readers try to demand that certain events happen in a story, but those desires might not fall in line with what the author has planned.
Nicholas– This is a typical “patience is a virtue” situation. Writing a series is a serious responsibility. Reading a series is an investment of both time and money, and we have to make sure that each and every book not only meets the readers’ expectations, but exceeds them. We owe them as much. That is why I’m grateful to all my readers, but those who have invested on Pearseus hold a special place in my heart.
There are several things we can do to make it easier on the reader, of course. For example, all my Pearseus books have a map with the cities and places that have been revealed so far, plus any new ones. Also, I have a character list at the beginning (and in X-ray, if reading on a Kindle), with a two-sentence description of who that person is. Another good idea is to offer a quick reminder each time a minor character first appears. For example, you can say something along the lines of:
“Parad walked into the room. He spotted Angel, his daughter, and smiled.”
This helps people who may have forgotten who Angel is.
Yet another trick I use is to give names to as few people as possible. For example, a minor character may be safely referred to by their property or occupation. Readers don’t need to know the name of every healer that tends a hero’s wounds, or every blacksmith that sharpens his weapons.
Finally, the best thing to do is to make sure each book can stand on its own. That means no cliffhangers and no obscure references – at least not without a reminder.
Sadly, this is not always possible. Mad Water, the third book in the series, ends on a cliffhanger because the subplots raised there are not resolved for another 400 pages. So I could either have an 800-page-long book or two 400-page ones, the first of which ends on a cliffhanger.
Obviously, I chose the latter – which brings me back to readers’ patience. 🙂
Charles’s Information
Now, you obviously know who I am, but what about Charles, one of the most charming visitors of this blog? You may remember him from my author feature, but here’s a short reminder:
Author Bio- Charles E Yallowitz has spent the last year as an Indie Author and he can say with assurance that he’s still not sure what he’s doing. All he knows is that he is having fun sharing his fantasy stories with the public and making friends with fellow authors. From his home in New York, Charles will continue to entertain with the Legends of Windemere series.
Charles’ covers are illustrated by the very talented Jason Pedersen.
Follow Charles
- Blog- www.legendsofwindemere.com
- Facebook- https://www.facebook.com/CharlesYallowitz
- Twitter- https://twitter.com/cyallowitz
This is a timely post. With regard to remember detail of minor characters, Scrivener is a help here with its ways of recording ongoing information. A further point is that beta readers can be very useful for the next book in the series. Morgen Bailey told me she’d like to see more of the character, Alan, friend of the protagonist Billy when in evacuation during WW2. So in the following book I am making Alan play much more of a part and am happy with the changes.
Charles, I would rethink the boxed set. I think Nicholas’ set is immediately attractive and I’m sure yours would look good in this format too.
Wow, such a sweet thing to say. Thank you 🙂
Thanks for this! I have been considering writing an adult fantasy series myself. Is it a good idea to set up the series with an overriding plot, such as the final defeat of Voldemort in the Harry Potter books, and then treat each book in the series as a subplot, giving each a satisfactory conclusion of the subplot while advancing the overriding main plot?
That’s the best way to do it, if at all possible!
Thanks, Nicholas! 🙂
I’m just starting a series (actually getting ready to begin book two), so this post was perfect timing for me. Excellent information from both of you. For my part, I find myself constantly making notes about small details I don’t want to forget in later books, such as those minor characters you mentioned with their individual details. This will be my first series, but I’m hoping it won’t be my last!
Super, I’m so glad to hear you found the post helpful 🙂
Taking detailed notes is the only way to survive a series without mishaps! 😀
Great job you two.
Thanks, Craig! Always the gentleman 🙂
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Writing a series is quite different from writing a stand-alone. Thanks to you both for the insights 🙂
Indeed. Of course, I’ve also heard a number of authors who have written a 900-page book, then realized it’s impossible to read in one sitting and then broke it up.
That’s basically what I did, a multi-book seriel versus an independent book series where the books can just as easily stand alone. It’s all so interesting.
Did I fall into another time vortex again? 😉 This was definitely a fun joint interview. Great that you posted it again.
Lol – this is the first time I’ve reposted it, but it was posted on Sally’s blog 😀
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Didn’t I read this before? Nonetheless, solid advice, you two.
Lol – you probably did. It was originally posted on on Sally’s blog, some four months ago 🙂
Thanks for the shout-out and the reposting, you two! FMI:
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Best to you all!
Sally
Nice to see how you both approach the complexities of writing a long series. My main experience of following one was Frank Herbert’s ‘Dune.’ I cannot imagine anyone being able to comprehend the story at all, if it was not read from the first book, in the correct sequence.
Best wishes from England. Pete.
It would be rather challenging, although I think that Herbert did his best to allow a degree of autonomy – at least until book #3. After that, he probably just rolled his eyes and thought, “just start at the beginning, reader” 😀
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When two terrific writers get together you get double the experience, knowledge and in the case of Nicholas Rossis and Charles Yallowitz double the trouble… Writing and promoting a series.
Thank both of you for rechecking your facts against yourself. I loath it when authors make boo boos like changing eye colors, etc. One book I read changed a girl’s name midway thru!! If THAT didn’t bug the very life outta me!!
Lol – that has to be the most extreme example I’ve heard of 😀
It devastated me!